This year there is a lot of discussion regarding how shallow 3rd base is. I tend to agree and will usually try to grab my 3rd baseman early. If you don't get one of the top 5 below, I would recommend grabbing another high upside (Gordon, Freese, Fox, etc.) option late in the draft to make sure you have options.
A Rod (1st round)
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Longoria
Zimmerman (2nd-3rd round)
Wright
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Sandoval (late 3rd - mid 4th round)
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A Ram (4-6th round)
Reynolds
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Youkilis
Beckham
Figgins
Stewart (mid rounds, 8-12)
M Young
Beltre
C Jones
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A Gordon
Kouzmanoff
Freese (late upside picks, round 15+)
Fox
Tejada
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Fliers, WW Watch List
Blake
Alvarez
Cantu
Polanco
DeRosa
Headley
Peralta
Rolen
Inge
Again, depending on where I'm drafting and how things play out, I like to get one of the top 4-5 3rd basemen. If I miss out on that group I will usually wait and grab a pair of upside guys from the 5th tier. While it is shallow and top heavy, I think some of the young guys will break out and move up in the rankings throughout the year.
Friday, January 29, 2010
Tuesday, January 19, 2010
Top Eleven - Favorite Baseball Movies (with favorite quote from each)
I am not saying that these are the best baseball movies of all time, just my favorite. The criteria I used are as follows. If all of these DVDs were in front of me, which one would I pick up and watch. That’s it, simple as that. So without further ado...
1. Major League – Juuust a bit outside!
-The characters are perfect. I loved this movie as a kid; now that I live in Cleveland I may be a little partial. Either way this is my favorite baseball movie ever.
2. Bull Durham – That sucker teed off on that like he knew I was gonna throw a fastball. – He did.
-Great story and although I didn’t make it that far, I’d guess this is one of the more realistic portrayals of what the minors is like.
3. Fever Pitch – This is the Church of numbers and every day is Sunday.
-While I’ve been a baseball fan the better part of my life, my obsession with baseball started right around the time this movie was released, so I can relate. Haha.
4. The Sandlot – You’re killing me smalls!
-Who doesn’t watch this movie and start to relive their childhood. We had a tree representing first base, a frisbee as second and whomever was batting at the times glove for third.
5. Baseketball - We gotta get jobs. Then we get the khakis. Then we get the chicks.
-I don’t know if this is a baseball movie, a basketball movie, both or neither (most would say the latter), but I’ve seen this movie many times and it always cracks me up.
6. Hardball – I love it when you call me Big Poppa!
-Not a huge Keanu Reeves fan, but he seems to fit in this role. A great story that hopefully inspired people to take action and help more kids experience baseball.
7. Angles in the Outfield – Bass sets...and sets...and sets again.
-Actually a touching story for anyone. May be far fetched but, ‘Anything can happen’ right. I know I snuck in another quote, but I had to choose the first one as we all set....and set...and set again while playing backyard ball.
8. Bad News Bears – Let Them Play, Let Them Play!
- I know, I know the quote is from the second movie. Who cares, the first movie was better as a whole, but I loved that scene from the second.
9. Rookie of the Year – Hot Ice, you heat up the ice!
-Every kids dream in the early 90’s, break your arm so you can pitch in the big leagues!
10. A League of Their Own – There’s no crying in baseball!
-Another classic. Great acting and story line as well as the most recognized quote in the history of sports movies.
11. The Naked Gun – Steeeeerike Twooooo!
-This is why I made it the top 11. This is by no means a baseball movie, but the umpire scene at the end may be my favorite baseball scene of all time – hilarious...
I would also like to point out that I have not seen all of the ‘great’ baseball movies. I am going to make an effort to watch the following movies and hopefully I’ll update my list as needed. I plan to watch them in this order, so if you think I should change that please let me know...
Movies I need to see
Eight Men Out
The Babe
The Natural
61
Summer Catch
Bleacher Bums
The Pride of the Yankees
The Scout
Little Big League
For the Love of the Game
Bang the Drum Slowly
1. Major League – Juuust a bit outside!
-The characters are perfect. I loved this movie as a kid; now that I live in Cleveland I may be a little partial. Either way this is my favorite baseball movie ever.
2. Bull Durham – That sucker teed off on that like he knew I was gonna throw a fastball. – He did.
-Great story and although I didn’t make it that far, I’d guess this is one of the more realistic portrayals of what the minors is like.
3. Fever Pitch – This is the Church of numbers and every day is Sunday.
-While I’ve been a baseball fan the better part of my life, my obsession with baseball started right around the time this movie was released, so I can relate. Haha.
4. The Sandlot – You’re killing me smalls!
-Who doesn’t watch this movie and start to relive their childhood. We had a tree representing first base, a frisbee as second and whomever was batting at the times glove for third.
5. Baseketball - We gotta get jobs. Then we get the khakis. Then we get the chicks.
-I don’t know if this is a baseball movie, a basketball movie, both or neither (most would say the latter), but I’ve seen this movie many times and it always cracks me up.
6. Hardball – I love it when you call me Big Poppa!
-Not a huge Keanu Reeves fan, but he seems to fit in this role. A great story that hopefully inspired people to take action and help more kids experience baseball.
7. Angles in the Outfield – Bass sets...and sets...and sets again.
-Actually a touching story for anyone. May be far fetched but, ‘Anything can happen’ right. I know I snuck in another quote, but I had to choose the first one as we all set....and set...and set again while playing backyard ball.
8. Bad News Bears – Let Them Play, Let Them Play!
- I know, I know the quote is from the second movie. Who cares, the first movie was better as a whole, but I loved that scene from the second.
9. Rookie of the Year – Hot Ice, you heat up the ice!
-Every kids dream in the early 90’s, break your arm so you can pitch in the big leagues!
10. A League of Their Own – There’s no crying in baseball!
-Another classic. Great acting and story line as well as the most recognized quote in the history of sports movies.
11. The Naked Gun – Steeeeerike Twooooo!
-This is why I made it the top 11. This is by no means a baseball movie, but the umpire scene at the end may be my favorite baseball scene of all time – hilarious...
I would also like to point out that I have not seen all of the ‘great’ baseball movies. I am going to make an effort to watch the following movies and hopefully I’ll update my list as needed. I plan to watch them in this order, so if you think I should change that please let me know...
Movies I need to see
Eight Men Out
The Babe
The Natural
61
Summer Catch
Bleacher Bums
The Pride of the Yankees
The Scout
Little Big League
For the Love of the Game
Bang the Drum Slowly
Thursday, January 14, 2010
Pessimist Post – Steroids
Is anybody else sick of hearing about this topic? Every couple months we get new information concerning the ‘steroid era’. I say Who Cares? For one it gives them extra media attention and publicity, so on top of all the money they made from taking steroids in the first place, they are now making even more off of steroids from all of the media attention. More importantly, true baseball fans are not concerned about who stuck who with what, instead they are counting down to the day pitchers and catchers are scheduled to report to spring training (February 17th for some teams).
Now I will contradict myself and talk about steroids. This will be my first and last post on this subject.
To begin, I don’t care who took steroids and who didn’t. I know all of the effects, benefits, dangers, etc. and if you gave me $250 million to take steroids for a couple of years I would say, ‘where do I sign’. If you told me my team would have a better chance to win the World Series this year, but some of the players would need to take steroids, I’d find out where to get them and which players were willing to take the risk. That said, I do understand the risks they pose to young athletes and fans who may be tempted to use them so I am happy that there is finally an effort to eliminate them from baseball and sports in general (of course this doesn’t apply to football).
The big question that lingers is ‘should these players be voted into the Pro Baseball Hall of Fame or not’. My take. Unless you don’t let any player that played from 1985 to 2005 into the Hall of Fame, you have to let anyone in that put up the numbers worthy of this recognition. The reason. I am fairly confident that no one can give me a complete and accurate list of all of the players who took steroids at some point in their career. New information comes out all the time in the form of books, testimonies, lists, interviews, etc. We can not create the all-inclusive list today and we never will! On top of that, steroids have been around since the 1930s. Can you tell me with 100% certainty that none of the 231 current Hall of Famers ever took steroids?
If you want to designate an area of the hall as the steroid era, that is fine with me and I think would help the next generation of fans understand the over-reaching impact steroids has had on baseball over the past 10 or so years.
Would such a distinction punish the players that didn’t take steroids? Some people use the argument that players such as Derek Jeter, Chipper Jones and Todd Helton should not be penalized because of the actions of other players. I couldn’t disagree more. Again, you will never be able to say for sure who has and who hasn’t experimented with the drug (I highly doubt the players named have but I am simply trying to make a point). More importantly, the players who truly were clean are either the most ignorant people on the planet and had no idea what was going on or they sat back and enjoyed the benefits of inflated numbers and higher contracts as well, making them just as guilty of playing in the steroid era.
Finally, any fan who is interested in the Pro Baseball Hall of Fame will undoubtedly be able to look at stats, records, pictures, articles, tweets, etc. and determine for themselves how the players in question stack up against players of their own era as well as players that came before or after them. Thus allowing each baseball fan to evaluate how he or she perceives the era and keeping all of the players, politicians, coaches, media and MLB brass out of the discussion once and for all.
Now I will contradict myself and talk about steroids. This will be my first and last post on this subject.
To begin, I don’t care who took steroids and who didn’t. I know all of the effects, benefits, dangers, etc. and if you gave me $250 million to take steroids for a couple of years I would say, ‘where do I sign’. If you told me my team would have a better chance to win the World Series this year, but some of the players would need to take steroids, I’d find out where to get them and which players were willing to take the risk. That said, I do understand the risks they pose to young athletes and fans who may be tempted to use them so I am happy that there is finally an effort to eliminate them from baseball and sports in general (of course this doesn’t apply to football).
The big question that lingers is ‘should these players be voted into the Pro Baseball Hall of Fame or not’. My take. Unless you don’t let any player that played from 1985 to 2005 into the Hall of Fame, you have to let anyone in that put up the numbers worthy of this recognition. The reason. I am fairly confident that no one can give me a complete and accurate list of all of the players who took steroids at some point in their career. New information comes out all the time in the form of books, testimonies, lists, interviews, etc. We can not create the all-inclusive list today and we never will! On top of that, steroids have been around since the 1930s. Can you tell me with 100% certainty that none of the 231 current Hall of Famers ever took steroids?
If you want to designate an area of the hall as the steroid era, that is fine with me and I think would help the next generation of fans understand the over-reaching impact steroids has had on baseball over the past 10 or so years.
Would such a distinction punish the players that didn’t take steroids? Some people use the argument that players such as Derek Jeter, Chipper Jones and Todd Helton should not be penalized because of the actions of other players. I couldn’t disagree more. Again, you will never be able to say for sure who has and who hasn’t experimented with the drug (I highly doubt the players named have but I am simply trying to make a point). More importantly, the players who truly were clean are either the most ignorant people on the planet and had no idea what was going on or they sat back and enjoyed the benefits of inflated numbers and higher contracts as well, making them just as guilty of playing in the steroid era.
Finally, any fan who is interested in the Pro Baseball Hall of Fame will undoubtedly be able to look at stats, records, pictures, articles, tweets, etc. and determine for themselves how the players in question stack up against players of their own era as well as players that came before or after them. Thus allowing each baseball fan to evaluate how he or she perceives the era and keeping all of the players, politicians, coaches, media and MLB brass out of the discussion once and for all.
Monday, January 4, 2010
2010 2B Tiers
2nd Base will be deeper in 2010 than at any other point this decade (or last decade if your scoring at home). For that reason, in fantasy drafts I believe you should lock up your 3B and SS early and look for value at 2B later in the draft (but not too much later as you'll see below).
Chase Utley
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Ian Kinsler
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Brian Roberts
Brandon Phillips
Dustin Pedroia
Aaron Hill
Robinson Cano
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Dan Uggla
Ben Zobrist
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Jose Lopez
Ian Stewart
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Howie Kendrick
Ricky Weeks
Martin Prado
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Orlando Hudson
Placido Polanco
Adam Kennedy
Freddy Sanchez
Mark Ellis
Clint Barmes
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Felipe Lopez
Alexi Casilla
Jeff Baker
Others who may be eligible at 2B in 2010 but are not today (or I feel are much more valuable at other positions); Gordon Beckham (Tier 4 if ranked), Chone Figgins (Tier 4), Casey McGehee (Tier 5), Asdrubal Cabrera (Tier 6) and Maicer Isturis (Tier 6).
Picking 3-7 (and maybe even 2 if your starting to get worried about Kinsler's streakiness) is very difficult and you will likely get many different opinions depending on who you ask or where you go for your information.
While it is deep, I think there is a significant drop off after Zobrist at 9, and even moreso after Prado at 14 (AL/NL only and deep leagues take note). So, while you may be able to wait, you do not want to be stuck as one of the last owners to snatch one up. If you are, you may miss out on a great year for 2nd base production and be at a big disadvantage to the other owners in your league who capitalized on this depth!
Good Luck!
Chase Utley
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Ian Kinsler
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Brian Roberts
Brandon Phillips
Dustin Pedroia
Aaron Hill
Robinson Cano
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Dan Uggla
Ben Zobrist
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Jose Lopez
Ian Stewart
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Howie Kendrick
Ricky Weeks
Martin Prado
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Orlando Hudson
Placido Polanco
Adam Kennedy
Freddy Sanchez
Mark Ellis
Clint Barmes
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Felipe Lopez
Alexi Casilla
Jeff Baker
Others who may be eligible at 2B in 2010 but are not today (or I feel are much more valuable at other positions); Gordon Beckham (Tier 4 if ranked), Chone Figgins (Tier 4), Casey McGehee (Tier 5), Asdrubal Cabrera (Tier 6) and Maicer Isturis (Tier 6).
Picking 3-7 (and maybe even 2 if your starting to get worried about Kinsler's streakiness) is very difficult and you will likely get many different opinions depending on who you ask or where you go for your information.
While it is deep, I think there is a significant drop off after Zobrist at 9, and even moreso after Prado at 14 (AL/NL only and deep leagues take note). So, while you may be able to wait, you do not want to be stuck as one of the last owners to snatch one up. If you are, you may miss out on a great year for 2nd base production and be at a big disadvantage to the other owners in your league who capitalized on this depth!
Good Luck!
Wednesday, December 9, 2009
Granderson Trade
Here's what I think:
Edwin Jackson was overrated. He was the perfect candidate for the sell high deal everyone wants to pull off. He showcased he's a #1 pitcher, then fell apart. So every team got a taste of what he can do, and that's the reason why Detroit was able to get Max Scherzer, left-handers Phil Coke and Daniel Schlereth and outfield prospect Austin Jackson. The trouble is Detroit gave up The Face. Curtis Granderson. I will admit, this one hurt. Being a Detroit fan, I'll miss this guy. I know everyone can knock his home/road splits, his lefty vs. righty splits, but this guy was a baseball player. He loved the game, loved the fans, and always had a smile. He's a good CF, quality bat, and he's obviously got power. He'll be missed.
On the plus side however, we cleared up some cap space, check out the contracts that are ending at the end of next season. Once 2010 is done, we'll have around $92 million. If we can opt out of Magg's 2011 season, we'll have over $100 million. Which means, Dave Dombrowski trading Granderson and EJax cleared up room for us to resign Verlander, and keep Miguel Cabrera long term, which I think is the smartest move. He's building his franchise around those 2 guys. And think of the free agents we'll be able to buy with over $100 million saved.
DETROIT
Updated 12/09
Ordonez, Magglio
5 yr/$75M (05-09)+10-11 opts
$18,000,000
Bonderman, Jeremy
4 yr/$38M (07-10)
$12,500,000
Willis, Dontrelle
3 yr/$29M (08-10)
$12,000,000
Robertson, Nate
3 yr/$21.25M (08-10)
$10,000,000
Inge, Brandon
4 yr/$24M (07-10)
$6,600,000
Verlander, Justin
1 yr/$3.675M (09)
Laird, Gerald
1 yr/$2.8M (09)
Everett, Adam
$1,550,000
Seay, Bobby
1 yr/$1.3M (09)
Bill Rego
1 yr/$0.825M (09)
Zumaya, Joel
1 yr/$0.735M (09)
Miner, Zach
1 yr/$0.4375M (09)
Galarraga, Armando
1 yr/$0.435M (09)
Raburn, Ryan
1 yr/$0.41M (09)
Larish, Jeff
1 yr/$0.403M (09)
Thomas, Clete
1 yr/$0.403M (09)
A few potential Free Agents after this coming season:
Garrett Atkins
Paul Konerko
Victor Martinez
Joe Mauer
Carl Crawford
Adam Dunn
Jermaine Dye
Jayson Werth
Josh Beckett
Jorge De La Rosa
Roy Halladay
Cliff Lee
Brandon Webb
Edwin Jackson was overrated. He was the perfect candidate for the sell high deal everyone wants to pull off. He showcased he's a #1 pitcher, then fell apart. So every team got a taste of what he can do, and that's the reason why Detroit was able to get Max Scherzer, left-handers Phil Coke and Daniel Schlereth and outfield prospect Austin Jackson. The trouble is Detroit gave up The Face. Curtis Granderson. I will admit, this one hurt. Being a Detroit fan, I'll miss this guy. I know everyone can knock his home/road splits, his lefty vs. righty splits, but this guy was a baseball player. He loved the game, loved the fans, and always had a smile. He's a good CF, quality bat, and he's obviously got power. He'll be missed.
On the plus side however, we cleared up some cap space, check out the contracts that are ending at the end of next season. Once 2010 is done, we'll have around $92 million. If we can opt out of Magg's 2011 season, we'll have over $100 million. Which means, Dave Dombrowski trading Granderson and EJax cleared up room for us to resign Verlander, and keep Miguel Cabrera long term, which I think is the smartest move. He's building his franchise around those 2 guys. And think of the free agents we'll be able to buy with over $100 million saved.
DETROIT
Updated 12/09
Ordonez, Magglio
5 yr/$75M (05-09)+10-11 opts
$18,000,000
Bonderman, Jeremy
4 yr/$38M (07-10)
$12,500,000
Willis, Dontrelle
3 yr/$29M (08-10)
$12,000,000
Robertson, Nate
3 yr/$21.25M (08-10)
$10,000,000
Inge, Brandon
4 yr/$24M (07-10)
$6,600,000
Verlander, Justin
1 yr/$3.675M (09)
Laird, Gerald
1 yr/$2.8M (09)
Everett, Adam
$1,550,000
Seay, Bobby
1 yr/$1.3M (09)
Bill Rego
1 yr/$0.825M (09)
Zumaya, Joel
1 yr/$0.735M (09)
Miner, Zach
1 yr/$0.4375M (09)
Galarraga, Armando
1 yr/$0.435M (09)
Raburn, Ryan
1 yr/$0.41M (09)
Larish, Jeff
1 yr/$0.403M (09)
Thomas, Clete
1 yr/$0.403M (09)
A few potential Free Agents after this coming season:
Garrett Atkins
Paul Konerko
Victor Martinez
Joe Mauer
Carl Crawford
Adam Dunn
Jermaine Dye
Jayson Werth
Josh Beckett
Jorge De La Rosa
Roy Halladay
Cliff Lee
Brandon Webb
Wednesday, November 25, 2009
You Get What you Pay For
These are some big name guys. Guys I see some Fantasy GMs building there teams around. Guys that have had one, maybe 2 really really good seasons, however, judging from last year, and their over-hyped should be careers, I'm labeling these guys: "You Get What You Pay For"
Jeff Francouer 15 72 76 6 0.280
Hunter Pence 25 76 72 14 0.282
BJ Upton 11 79 55 42 0.241
Alexei Ramirez 15 71 68 15 0.277
Stephen Drew 12 71 65 5 0.261
Now some will argue these guys are still young, they have room to grow, and yes, I agree with that; Drew, Upton, and maybe Ramirez, have some high upside, but what these guys will be going for in drafts is not worth the risk. If I'm paying big bucks, I want "known" production. These guys are high risk, subtle rewards. I think their 2009 stats are right in line with what to expect, and that makes them no more then quality fillers for teams.
Name HR R RBI SB AVG.
Vernon Wells 15 84 66 17 0.260
Billy Butler 21 78 93 1 0.301
Jeff Francouer 15 72 76 6 0.280
Hunter Pence 25 76 72 14 0.282
BJ Upton 11 79 55 42 0.241
Alexei Ramirez 15 71 68 15 0.277
Stephen Drew 12 71 65 5 0.261
Now some will argue these guys are still young, they have room to grow, and yes, I agree with that; Drew, Upton, and maybe Ramirez, have some high upside, but what these guys will be going for in drafts is not worth the risk. If I'm paying big bucks, I want "known" production. These guys are high risk, subtle rewards. I think their 2009 stats are right in line with what to expect, and that makes them no more then quality fillers for teams.
Tuesday, November 24, 2009
M Cabrera Trade Rumors
I decided to post this after reading some of the comments on MLBTradeRumors.
Some of the comments made were mind-boggling...
Cabrera may not age well. While I agree that in ~6-8 years that may be a concern, he is only 27, not 37 folks.
This would be a salary dump. Although the Tigers are looking to get rid of some payroll for 2010, this is not a salary dump. That phrase should be left to guys like Bradley, Lowe, Burrell, etc. Yes, Cabrera is one of the top contracts in baseball, but he also is one of the top (3-6 IMO) players in baseball too. Like some have said teams were willing to give Tex that much or more and Cabrera is clearly better than Tex (in the Yanks ballpark Cabrera would have 55 HR/year).
Cabrera is a liability in the field. This couldn't be further from the truth. Obviously he is not an Elite fielder and can't play 3B anymore, but he has improved is defense the past couple years at 1B and although he probably won't win any gold gloves, he's already an above average 1B in the AL.
Teams could get the same hitter in FA and not give up prospects. Are you kidding me? Holliday is the only player in the same 'group' as Cabrera and you saw what he did in a pitchers park. If any teams wants a true game changer they aren't going to get that from the FAs available this year. While it would (and should) cost a lot. Cabrera can single handedly upgrade an offense and could turn many teams into contenders. You can look at what he didn't do down the stretch, but where would the Tigers be without Cabrera this past year, he put up those numbers batting between Clete Thomas and an old, injured Magglio Ordonez!
Here's my take at what Teams might have to give up to get Cabrera. If they don't I'm sure the Tigers won't mind holding onto him (after 2010 his salary will fit in fine, even with a lower payroll).
Baltimore - Riemold, Guthrie & Snyder
NYM- F Mart, Niese, Davis, Flores
Bos - Buchholz, Anderson, Bowden (or Kelly)
Mariners - Aumont, Halman, Triunfel
Braves - Freeman, Jurjens, and SS/1B/3B guy
Giants - Bumgarden (or Posey), Villalona (or Sanchez if Posey), Burres
Tor - Snider, Cecil, Perez (probably not in it since they're trying to deal Halladay, but might like the extra years of team control)
Other teams; Angels, Diamondbacks, White Sox, Rangers?
I'm not 100% caught up on all these guys, so I might be under/over valuing a little in each case. Also if the trading team was willing to take a bad contract, the price could go down a bit...
Some of the comments made were mind-boggling...
Cabrera may not age well. While I agree that in ~6-8 years that may be a concern, he is only 27, not 37 folks.
This would be a salary dump. Although the Tigers are looking to get rid of some payroll for 2010, this is not a salary dump. That phrase should be left to guys like Bradley, Lowe, Burrell, etc. Yes, Cabrera is one of the top contracts in baseball, but he also is one of the top (3-6 IMO) players in baseball too. Like some have said teams were willing to give Tex that much or more and Cabrera is clearly better than Tex (in the Yanks ballpark Cabrera would have 55 HR/year).
Cabrera is a liability in the field. This couldn't be further from the truth. Obviously he is not an Elite fielder and can't play 3B anymore, but he has improved is defense the past couple years at 1B and although he probably won't win any gold gloves, he's already an above average 1B in the AL.
Teams could get the same hitter in FA and not give up prospects. Are you kidding me? Holliday is the only player in the same 'group' as Cabrera and you saw what he did in a pitchers park. If any teams wants a true game changer they aren't going to get that from the FAs available this year. While it would (and should) cost a lot. Cabrera can single handedly upgrade an offense and could turn many teams into contenders. You can look at what he didn't do down the stretch, but where would the Tigers be without Cabrera this past year, he put up those numbers batting between Clete Thomas and an old, injured Magglio Ordonez!
Here's my take at what Teams might have to give up to get Cabrera. If they don't I'm sure the Tigers won't mind holding onto him (after 2010 his salary will fit in fine, even with a lower payroll).
Baltimore - Riemold, Guthrie & Snyder
NYM- F Mart, Niese, Davis, Flores
Bos - Buchholz, Anderson, Bowden (or Kelly)
Mariners - Aumont, Halman, Triunfel
Braves - Freeman, Jurjens, and SS/1B/3B guy
Giants - Bumgarden (or Posey), Villalona (or Sanchez if Posey), Burres
Tor - Snider, Cecil, Perez (probably not in it since they're trying to deal Halladay, but might like the extra years of team control)
Other teams; Angels, Diamondbacks, White Sox, Rangers?
I'm not 100% caught up on all these guys, so I might be under/over valuing a little in each case. Also if the trading team was willing to take a bad contract, the price could go down a bit...
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